joining me from washington, d.c., reed wilson, editor-in-chief of the national hotline. it's good to have you here. you were listening to this. how important is it to make sure that the governors around the country and particularly this six, why they were chosen, making sure that the governors are on board with any plan going forward as we try to negotiate the back and forth negotiationses between the right and the white house? >> well, it's because the governors feel this budget shortfall. they are planning for as they are going through their budget process, is that money that i'm earmarking for education or transportation or whatever is happening in the state actually going to be there when the time comes for me to spend it or are we going to have to call the state legislatures back in session and make these cuts across the board? it's always a pretty traumatic when a legislature has to come back and revise a budget and sort of account for money that is not there when you expected it to be there. that's why getting these governors on board is really important. i actual